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pursuing the upward call with fear and trembling

just a 44 year old man seeking to share my meanderings with the world at large or the blogosphere at small

Wednesday, May 07, 2008

Follow- Up to Traditions Die Hard

Just wanted to touch up a few things here and there. Satan means adversary,accuser,opposer. In many cases when satan is referred to adam is the one meant, like when Jesus tells the jewish leaders they are of their father the devil. When Peter questioned Jesus about his being crucified, Jesus called him satan, and said he was not seeking God's interests but mans. In the book of Job, the angels come before God, and satan also was there. The word is the same meaning, adversary. We are not told specifically who this was, many contend that Job was actually written before Genesis historically. In the book of Jude verse 9 we see Michael the chief angel disputing with satan over the body of Moses. This is not meant to be the literal body of Moses but the old covenant law, which was called the body of Moses. In the Mount of Transfiguration Moses and Elijah were present with Jesus, representing the Law and the Prophets.

In the first verse i referred to in my last post, in Revelation 12:9- the verse speaks about angels following the dragon. Angel means messenger, and can refer to both angelic and human messengers. In this context the angels being referred to are the apostate jews who were adversaries against God and Christ and the establishment of the New Covenant. In Revelation 12 there is a woman clothed by the sun on top of the moon with 12 stars on her head. This is describing jacob,who was named Israel, rachel and the 12 tribes. I need to find my reference which shows this wording back in genesis so it can be followed along.

Adam was created perfect by God. God made him a living soul. A key truth to note also is that we do not HAVE a soul, we ARE a soul. Immortality of the soul is a concept developed by plato and not Scripture. From dust we came to dust we will return once we die physically. We are not given immortality until we die and are resurrected into our new bodies as a result of trusting in Jesus. There is a verse that says it is appointed man once to die and then the judgment, pretty much eliminates reincarnation. Neo-platonism still has spread its way into our culture philosophically on down through the ages. In alot of Paul's writings he directly addresses aspects of greek philosophy and gnosticism, showing the gospel is far different from any philosophy or other religious ideas.

i have been wanting to lay a foundation here. As i said i have been struggling to take in all of this for 2 years now and it has begun to take shape in a way that makes sense. I have loose ends i want to study and pursue more. I hope it stimulates thought and questions which provoke further study and inquiry. Always eager to recieve any and all input,whatever it might be.


At 8:44 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

As soon as I started reading..I could tell what it means to hide scripture in your heart! When I saw the word Immortality I started quoting this:

1 Corinthians 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

The adversary is here to kill, steal and destroy! The lies that we all hear is not of G-D! Everything that G-D made he made it perfect, we are made perfect,because we were made in HIS image... We are corrupt because of our Own sins.. it is time that we stand in obedience, that is when all things fall into place!

There is only ONE way to Heaven and that is through Yeshua... Noone comes to The Abba, except through Yeshua!! I cannot believe that I did not believe in Yeshua up until now!

I am just rambling lol!! I just took some pieces that really stuck out to me and commented on them!! I like your outlook on this!! I want more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL!!!


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